Legislature(1993 - 1994)

02/23/1994 03:38 PM Senate RES

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                   SENATE RESOURCES COMMITTEE                                  
                       February 23, 1994                                       
                           3:38 P.M.                                           
                                                                               
 MEMBERS PRESENT                                                               
                                                                               
 Senator Mike Miller, Chairman                                                 
 Senator Loren Leman, Vice Chairman                                            
 Senator Steve Frank                                                           
 Senator Drue Pearce                                                           
 Senator Dave Donley                                                           
 Senator Fred Zharoff                                                          
                                                                               
  MEMBERS ABSENT                                                               
                                                                               
 Senator Al Adams                                                              
                                                                               
  COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                           
                                                                               
 HOUSE BILL NO. 232                                                            
 "An Act relating to a bow hunting tag and bow hunting safety; and             
 providing for an effective date."                                             
                                                                               
 SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 17                                                
 Relating to reauthorization of the Magnuson Fishery Conservation              
 and Management Act.                                                           
                                                                               
 SENATE BILL NO. 322                                                           
 "An Act repealing the limitation on delays imposed on oil and gas             
 lease sales under the Alaska Land Act."                                       
                                                                               
  PREVIOUS ACTION                                                              
                                                                               
 HB 232 -  See Resources minutes dated 2/22/94 and 2/23/94.                    
                                                                               
 SJR 17 - See Resources minutes dated 2/23/94.                                 
                                                                               
 SB 322 - See Resources minutes dated 2/23/94.                                 
                                                                               
  WITNESS REGISTER                                                             
                                                                               
 Jim Eason, Director                                                           
 Division of Oil and Gas                                                       
 Department of Natural Resources                                               
 P.O. Box 107034                                                               
 Anchorage, Ak. 99510-7005                                                     
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Supported SB 322.                                      
                                                                               
 Senator Suzanne Little                                                        
 State Capitol                                                                 
 Juneau, Ak. 99801-1182                                                        
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Supported SB 322.                                      
 Representative Bunde                                                          
 State Capitol                                                                 
 Juneau, Ak. 99801-1182                                                        
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Sponsor HB 232.                                        
                                                                               
 Garry Cason                                                                   
 Kenai Peninsula Archers                                                       
 P.O. Box 4215                                                                 
 Soldotna, Ak 99669                                                            
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Opposed HB 232.                                        
                                                                               
 Bill Curtis                                                                   
 P.O. Box 91                                                                   
 Soldotna, Ak. 99669                                                           
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Opposed HB 232.                                        
                                                                               
 Don Poole                                                                     
 Alaska Bow Hunters Association                                                
 P.O. Box 2200                                                                 
 Soldotna, Ak. 99669                                                           
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Opposed HB 232 personally and said the ABHA            
 was neutral.                                                                  
                                                                               
 Ken Vorisek, President                                                        
 Golden North Archery Association                                              
 427 Crestmont Dr.                                                             
 Fairbanks, Ak. 99709                                                          
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Supported HB 232.                                      
                                                                               
 Rick Schikora                                                                 
 1416 Gillam Way                                                               
 Fairbanks, Ak. 99701                                                          
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Supported HB 232.                                      
                                                                               
 Dennis Goldback                                                               
 915 21st. Ave.                                                                
 Fairbanks, Ak. 99701                                                          
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Opposed HB 232.                                        
                                                                               
 Harry Lusk                                                                    
 2113 Lake View Terrace                                                        
 Fairbanks, Ak. 99701                                                          
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Commented on HB 232.                                   
                                                                               
 Edward Russell                                                                
 P.O. Box 111867                                                               
 Anchorage, Ak. 99511                                                          
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Opposed HB 232.                                        
                                                                               
 Phil Pringle                                                                  
 2104 Misty Glen Cr.                                                           
 Anchorage, Ak. 99502                                                          
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Opposed HB 232.                                        
                                                                               
 George Moerlein                                                               
 7300 O'Malley                                                                 
 Anchorage, Ak. 99516                                                          
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Opposed HB 232.                                        
                                                                               
 Dave Kelleyhouse, Director                                                    
 Division of Wildlife Conservation                                             
 Department of Fish and Game                                                   
 P.O. Box 25526                                                                
 Juneau, Ak. 99802-5526                                                        
  POSITION STATEMENT:   Supported HB 232.                                      
                                                                               
 ACTION NARRATIVE                                                              
                                                                               
  TAPE 94-14, SIDE A                                                           
                                                                               
 Number 001                                                                    
 CHAIRMAN MILLER called the Resources Committee meeting to order at            
 3:38 p.m. and announced  SB 322  (DELAYS OF OIL AND GAS LEASE SALES)     )    
 to be up for consideration.                                                   
                                                                               
 JIM EASON, Director, Division of Oil and Gas, said this is a very             
 simple, but important amendment.  It removes a provision requiring            
 when the Department schedules a sale on its five-year schedule that           
 they have to hold that sale within 90 days of the quarter in which            
 the sale is scheduled.  If they don't do that, they lose the                  
 opportunity to conduct the sale for a minimum of two years.                   
                                                                               
 The reason it should be deleted now, he explained, is because there           
 is a vast amount of laws and regulations that overlap, more than in           
 1978 when this amendment was adopted.  The likelihood is that sales           
 will often have to be delayed just to avoid potential complications           
 with these overlaps.                                                          
                                                                               
 MR. EASON said recently they have found another reason.  Last night           
 the Supreme Court noticed they would not hear the State's appeal on           
 the sale 78 decision.  He said the Department's ability to continue           
 to work with the public on that sale was stalled by this very                 
 provision.  They delayed that sale once in order to allow more                
 time, but couldn't delay it further because of this provision.                
                                                                               
 SENATOR LITTLE supported SB 322.  She said there were many                    
 difficulties with lease sale 78.  The Commissioner was not able to            
 hold additional public hearings although there were several                   
 requests after the public comment period had closed.                          
                                                                               
 SENATOR FRANK moved to pass SB 322 from Committee with individual             
 recommendations and accompanying fiscal note.  There were no                  
 objections and it was so ordered.                                             
 Number 92                                                                     
                                                                               
 SENATOR FRANK suggested sending an effective date along to the next           
 Committee.  SENATOR MILLER agreed.                                            
 SENATOR MILLER announced  SJR 17  (MAGNUSON FISHERY CONSRV & MGT ACT)    T)   
 to be up for consideration.                                                   
                                                                               
 SENATOR LITTLE explained that the resolution sends an important               
 message to congress to retain the current geographic composition of           
 the North Pacific Fisheries Management Council so Alaska's                    
 representation would not be weakened.                                         
                                                                               
 She said the proposed CS contains technical amendments requested by           
 the Department of Fish and Game.  It deletes "high seas" and                  
 replaces it with "exclusive economic zone."  It removes the term              
 "outer" from "outer continental shelf."                                       
                                                                               
 SENATOR LITTLE noted there was a $0 fiscal note.                              
                                                                               
 Number 133                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR DONLEY moved to adopt the CS to SJR 17.  There were no                
 objections and it was so ordered.                                             
                                                                               
 SENATOR LITTLE said that there was a letter of support from the               
 Kenai Peninsula Fishermen's Association.  She also noted they                 
 wanted more persons to be added to the list to which they would               
 send the resolution, but they wanted to make that amendment in                
 Judiciary.                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR LEMAN moved to discharge CSSJR 17 from Committee with                 
 individual recommendations.  There were no objections and it was so           
 ordered.                                                                      
 Number 181                                                                    
 SENATOR MILLER announced  HB 232  (BOW HUNTING STAMP & BOW HUNTING            
 SAFETY to be up for consideration.)  He said they would take a                
 recess at 3:50 p.m. and called the meeting back to order at 3:55              
 p.m.                                                                          
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE, sponsor, explained that certain areas in                
 Alaska are reserved for bow hunting.  It is necessary to take a bow           
 hunting class to hunt in those areas.  Bow hunters support this               
 program physically and financially.  He said the fees would go to             
 support the bow hunter program.  He said a majority of bow hunters            
 support HB 232.                                                               
                                                                               
 Number 287                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR ZHAROFF asked if this applied state-wide.  REPRESENTATIVE             
 BUNDE replied it applies in special archery seasons and areas.  He            
 was not aware of an archery area in Kodiak.                                   
                                                                               
 SENATOR ZHAROFF moved an effective date of January 1, 1995.  There            
 were no objections and it was so ordered.                                     
                                                                               
 GARRY CASON, Kenai Peninsula Archers, opposed HB 232 since it is              
 for bow hunting areas only.  He felt there were enough restrictions           
 on bow hunting now.  They feel that archery already pays for its              
 share of funding due to the Pitman-Robertson fund and there is an             
 11% excise tax on all archery equipment.                                      
                                                                               
 BILL CURTIS, Soldotna resident, opposed HB 232.  He was appalled at           
 the way it was presented to the archers of the state.                         
                                                                               
 DON POOLE, Soldotna resident, said he was against HB 232, because             
 it is an unnecessary expense.  He is concerned that the income                
 generated from this would be used as general fund money.  As                  
 President of the Alaskan Bow hunters, he said they are split on the           
 matter and are taking a neutral stance.                                       
                                                                               
 Number 334                                                                    
                                                                               
 KEN VORISEK, President, Golden North Archery Association, supported           
 HB 232.  He said a majority of the Bowhunters around the state have           
 voted to support HB 232.  The $7 archery tag would be mandatory               
 wherever you hunt with a bow and arrow.  The other part of the bill           
 mandates the state have a bow hunter education program.  The intent           
 of the bill was to fund that program.  The program is mandatory               
 where there is a bow hunting only area.                                       
                                                                               
 RICK SCHIKORA, Fairbanks resident, supported HB 232.  He thought it           
 might provide the possibility of additional bow hunting seasons and           
 areas.  After participating as an instructor in the IT&T program,             
 he was in favor of the bow hunting stamp.                                     
                                                                               
 DENNIS GOLDBACK, Fairbanks resident, opposed HB 232.  He said he              
 didn't see any financial gain from selling stamps the way the bill            
 is written.  He said he saw a lot of loop holes in it.                        
                                                                               
 HARRY LUSK, Fairbanks resident, said in North Carolina and South              
 Carolina there is a longer hunting season without the stamp, but              
 with a tag.  They also have "either sex days".  He said that                  
 archers expend a lot more energy to even stop game than rifle                 
 hunters do.  He said they should have more benefits than rifle                
 hunters.                                                                      
                                                                               
 Number 433                                                                    
                                                                               
 EDWARD RUSSELL, Anchorage resident, said he faxed his testimony               
 opposing HB 232.  He said that wildlife stamps serve no useful                
 purpose in the management of game in Alaska.  He said there is no             
 way the stamp can pay for printing, distribution, and some sort of            
 publicity campaign.  He didn't think bow hunters should be charged            
 a surtax for hunting which is what this is.                                   
                                                                               
 PHIL PRINGLE, Anchorage resident and bow hunter teacher, totally              
 opposed HB 232.  He didn't think the revenue generated would cover            
 the cost of implementing and maintaining the plan.  He said there             
 was already an education force in place.  He didn't think paying $7           
 was an issue.                                                                 
                                                                               
 GEORGE MOERLEIN, Anchorage resident and former Director of the                
 Alaska Bow Hunters Association, said HB 232 has no redeeming                  
 features for either the state or the bow hunting community.  He               
 said it is totally unfair to bow hunters.                                     
                                                                               
 Number 512                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE said bow hunters do have more opportunities to           
 hunt than rifle hunters.                                                      
                                                                               
 DAVE KELLEYHOUSE, Director, Division of Wildlife Conservation, said           
 the costs of administering the program would be proportional to how           
 many tags were sold.  The primary cost would be $1 per tag sold to            
 the vendor.  The other is 5% of the tag and the remainder would go            
 into the Fish and Game fund.  All vendor payments now are being               
 paid with Fish and Game funds.  He thought the program would be               
 revenue positive.                                                             
                                                                               
 SENATOR MILLER asked what if the legislation was amended to just              
 address bow hunting in those areas where there is only bow hunting.           
 MR. KELLEYHOUSE explained that most of the exclusive bow hunting              
 areas are around the urban areas.  He thought that most of the bow            
 hunters would take advantage of the special seasons so they didn't            
 have to compete with the rifle hunters at the same time.  It would            
 still be revenue positive because the cost of administering the               
 program would be proportional to the number of licenses sold.                 
 There would be a month of a clerk typist at the most.  The rest of            
 the costs are directly proportional to the number of tags sold.               
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE BUNDE explained an amendment to page 2, line 7 would           
 add "in a special bow hunting area or seasons" after "a person may            
 not engage in bow hunting".                                                   
                                                                               
 SENATOR LEMAN moved that language as an amendment.                            
                                                                               
 SENATOR ZHAROFF asked if it was necessary to put in "or season" if            
 you're going to have a special bow hunting area?  REPRESENTATIVE              
 BUNDE replied that he had hoped to have special bow hunting seasons           
 in the future.  For example on the Kenai Peninsula when they had a            
 prerifle season that was for archery.                                         
                                                                               
  TAPE 94-14, SIDE B                                                           
 Number 588                                                                    
                                                                               
  SENATOR MILLER asked if there were objections to the amendment.              
 There was some discussion and he announced they would send the bill           
 to the drafters and get it back as a CS and schedule it for action            
 on Monday.                                                                    
 SENATOR MILLER adjourned the meeting at 4:30 p.m.                             
                                                                               

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